I posted this in the Private Coders Forum on vb.org, but since not everyone can actually access that forum, I thought id copy it here as well. I have been making modifications for five and a half years now, and over much of that time I have kept records on install counts in excel, and mapped them out in charts over time. Its quite interesting (to me anyway) some of the patterns you notice over time. One of the patterns that has always repeated over all the 3.x > 3.y releases is that as each new major version is released, the counts for the previous version stop rising and immediatly drop by a few %, and then continue to slowly fall over time, while at the same time, the counts for the new version shoot up initially, and then continue to rise steadily. Neither of these is really much of a surprise as it shows members switching from one version to the next. However, the move from 3.8 > 4.0 is breaking this pattern in a very significant way. When 4.0 went gold in December, the usual pattern seemed to kick in, the 4.0 counts shot up, the 3.8 counts dipped [slightly], but since then, the pattern has changed very interestingly - while the 4.0 counts continue to slowly rise, so are the 3.8 install counts - so much in fact that they are now back to the level before 4.0 was released, and they are still going up. This has never happened before, and IMO this is a significant fact - I take it as a real life indicator that admins are not moving to 4.0, but sticking with (or starting with ?) vb 3.8. Im sure we all thought that, but to me, this displays the trend in actual figures.