I have had enough of vBulletin now. Quite apart from being threatened with stupid infractions for trivial matters nowadays (which has led to me completely ceasing posting there since about three weeks ago), it now appears that yet again, if I wish to upgrade to 4.1.10 it's going to completely break my site lock stock and barrel. Since fixing that would be not far off the same amount of work as moving to XenForo, I'm simply going to do that instead, and leave vBulletin and their endless bugfixing, zero developmental direction, impending vB5 "cash grab" and project manager who is only there for "extreme marketing", to collapse into its own pile of steaming turds, as it clearly eventually will. I have had a XF licence since the start, of course. I need certain features like an arcade to come to fruition but that doesn't seem far away now. So 2012 will be my XenForo year. It'll be a lot of work naturally but I will get there. Eventually.
Yes I've been following it, I know at least one site has the early beta running reasonably well, though we would wait for the final release. I'm a patient sort, my forum works fine on vB so there's no urgency, it's just it cannot move forward on that platform. And I'm *certainly* not going to be publicly threatened by a company I pay money to.
Mark, it would be interesting and useful to others if you could document your migration soeveryone could see the ease/difficulties of switching. Would you mind?
Mark, I think you'll find the move a pleasant one. I originally planned to do the same thing, actually. But I went ahead and purchased a XenForo license and got to liking it so much, I converted one of my sites within a few days.
Mark, for my own reasons I have not been following the vBulletin forums lately. What kind of changes are expected in 4.1.10 that will break sites? (But at least they are giving warnings this time.) XFA is coming along but slowly. Right now the effort is being made to get the core system of adding games, playing games, and saving scores working correctly for IPB v32 games (and v3A games but, honestly, it is IPB v32 games that people are really after). We recently did a mini push to get some the current alpha/beta/work-in-progress version cleaned up and to work on some issues that might affect some sites but not others. Versus v3A & IPBPro, XFA will seem pretty primitive but both of those systems are the result of years of coding.
Maybe you should try running a poll and see if not having an arcade right away really is the game breaker you think it is. I'm not trying to imply you don't know your own site and members, but it couldn't hurt and the results may surprise you. @Kev, I haven't been ignoring you and the stuff you and I talked about re: XFA, just been busy offline and probably will continue to be till after the new year.
I will have a go. Think the main ones are HERE. Nope, definitely, on my site at least one arcade is a 100% show stopper. Or rather, the lack of one would be. Might as well shut down if we didn't have one. As with my upgrade to vB4, my site has always had a policy that an "upgrade" should always mean, at the very least, no significant loss of functionality. I don't ever want to be like those sites that announce they have upgraded, then spend the whole thread explaining to people why numerous things don't work any more. The user base would murder me if I tried that, which is why my vB4 upgrade took four months! But we lost no functionality at all.
I've been away from vBulletin for a couple years now. Do they still have a lot of people doing styles? It seems as if there is an ongoing exodus from there and if a lot of their skinners have left, that could present some problems for people.
